Green Thursday, radio program, May 16, 1974

  • (Birds singing)
  • BOB CRYSTAL: Green Thursday with Bob Crystal.
  • (Music - Michael Cohen, "Bitterfeast"]
  • (Singing) My lover Peterson, he called me Goldenmouth,
  • and I changed him to a bird.
  • And he migrated south.
  • My lover Frederick wrote sonnets to my breast,
  • and I changed him to a horse.
  • And he galloped on west.
  • My lover Jonathan, he named me Bitterfeast,
  • and I changed him to a serpent.
  • And he wriggled east.
  • My lover I'd forgotten, the one who named me Death,
  • well, I changed him to a catfish.
  • And he swam up north.
  • My lover I imagined, he cannot form a name,
  • and I I will nestle in his fur.
  • And never be to blame.
  • And never be to blame.
  • BOB CRYSTAL: That was Michael Cohen with "Bitterfeast."
  • And tonight, this is Green Thursday for the 16th of May.
  • Bruce is home in bed, having an affair with a flu virus
  • tonight.
  • So I'm going to be on alone.
  • Tonight, we have the second of three parts on the interview
  • about roles and images.
  • And I've been asked to talk about the charter bus that
  • is going to be going to New York City for the June Gay Pride
  • Weekend.
  • Every year for the past five years,
  • there's been a march to celebrate the Stonewall Riots.
  • And we've been going down in individual cars
  • and by ourselves.
  • This year, the Gay Alliance is organizing a charter bus
  • to go down.
  • It's going to cost $35 each to get a round-trip.
  • And seats are reserved with a $10 check to the GAGV
  • treasurer.
  • And you can mail those to 713 Monroe Avenue.
  • Be sure to address it to the Gay Alliance.
  • And $10 will hold the seat, and you
  • have to include your name, and address, and phone number.
  • Please don't send cash.
  • Next, we're going to have Stefan Grossman
  • with "Can't Papa Blues."
  • [Music - Stefan Grossman, "Can't Papa Blues"]
  • (Singing) Well, the wood's running low.
  • The windows are frozen.
  • I made three dots and saw those eyes and that nose.
  • And yes, I'd know them anywhere.
  • It's never been more clear.
  • Come in, Papa.
  • It's chilly out there.
  • Well, I've been crying in my tea at the Late, Late Show.
  • The station went off about an hour ago.
  • Well, if you were in my shoes, it
  • wouldn't come as news to have those can't do
  • a thing without you Papa blues.
  • Come on and take off your watch.
  • Have some pecan pie.
  • Hold me in a hurry, man, or I'm going to die.
  • Come on and take off your shoes 'cause
  • I'm planning to lose those can't do a thing without you
  • Papa blues.
  • Take it, boys.
  • Well, today, I went to Welfare to try to get some bread.
  • They sent me to their doctor.
  • And their doctor said, "Son, your pulse is rather normal.
  • Your head is rather clear.
  • There's plenty of jobs that you can handle out there."
  • I said, "Mister, my corn's in the snow.
  • There's ants on my table.
  • My bookshelves are falling 'cause I'm just not
  • able to tighten the screws."
  • Yes, you got to pay your dues to have those can't do
  • a thing without you Papa blues.
  • Come on and take off your watch.
  • Have some pecan pie.
  • Hold me in a hurry, man, or I'm going to die.
  • Come on and take off your shoes 'cause
  • I'm planning to lose those can't do a thing without you
  • Papa blues.
  • Come on and take off your shoes 'cause
  • I'm planning to lose those can't do a thing without,
  • won't see another spring without,
  • I can't do a thing without you Papa blues.
  • All right!
  • (Singing scat)
  • BOB CRYSTAL: That was Stefan Grossman
  • with "Can't Papa Blues."
  • Northwestern Bell Telephone Company
  • of Minneapolis, Minnesota has ended
  • its policy of open discrimination
  • against gay people.
  • The decision by the Minneapolis-based firm
  • is believed to be the first crack
  • in the nationwide anti-gay policy of the American
  • Telephone and Telegraph system, whose 800,000 employees make
  • it the country's largest private employer.
  • The change followed by only three days
  • the enactment by the Minneapolis City Council
  • on March 29 of an amendment to the civil rights ordinance
  • forbidding discrimination against gays in jobs, housing,
  • public accommodations, union membership,
  • and public services.
  • Quote, "The Council acted on a Friday,
  • and on Monday, Bell called the mayor's office
  • and said they were capitulating,"
  • said Victor Propus, City Director of Civil Rights.
  • "We didn't have to call them or anything.
  • In fact, the mayor hadn't even signed it into law yet."
  • William Stocks, Northwestern Bell's Vice President
  • for Personnel, said, "We reconsidered our position
  • over the weekend, after the City Council made it illegal."
  • Similar gay job rights ordinances
  • enacted in Washington D.C., Seattle, Ann Arbor,
  • and East Lansing have apparently failed
  • to sway other Bell affiliates.
  • In Minneapolis, Northwestern Bell
  • was under heavy attack for its bias.
  • Last October, the Minnesota branch of the American Civil
  • Liberties Union filed suit in US District Court
  • on behalf of two gay men who were refused jobs, one merely
  • because he was truthful in explaining why his draft
  • status was 4-F. The ACLU's lawsuit is still
  • alive despite the policy change, for the civil liberties
  • group seeks to win back wages for the two men
  • and to establish a new legal principle in the suit.
  • One is that anti-gay bias is outlawed under the US Civil
  • Rights Act of 1964 on the basis of sex,
  • although sex usually has been interpreted
  • to mean gender, not preference.
  • In Winnipeg, Manitoba, Richard North, twenty-two,
  • and Chris Vogel, twenty-six, were united February 11
  • in what is believed to be the first gay marriage
  • in that Canadian province.
  • Officiating at the Unitarian Church ceremony
  • was Reverend Norman Naylor.
  • North is a student at the University of Manitoba,
  • and Vogel works for the provincial Department of Mines.
  • North said there was much uncertainty
  • over whether the marriage would be legally recognized,
  • but he and Vogel decided they would take the step, partly
  • to bring it to the attention of the public
  • their belief in the importance and commitment
  • of their relationship.
  • They did not attempt to obtain a government marriage license,
  • but instead took the alternative of having
  • the marriage proclaimed by the church publicly.
  • "Our commitment to each other is fundamental in our lives,"
  • said North.
  • "And in our society, formal recognition of such a fact
  • is accomplished through the custom of marriage.
  • The fact that homosexuals are not permitted to marry legally
  • is an attempt by society and government
  • to reject the validity of homosexual relationships."
  • In a 1,400 page report released in mid-April,
  • the Pennsylvania Crime Commission
  • has recommended a complete review
  • of the necessity of regulating victimless crimes.
  • Included in that category are deviant sexual intercourse
  • and similar statutes which label the gay citizens
  • of Pennsylvania as criminals and are used to prosecute gays.
  • The section of the report dealing with anti-gay law
  • states, "The present policy of regulating
  • sexual conduct between two consenting adults
  • should be re-evaluated and revised.
  • Using police resources to curb homosexuality not only is
  • ineffective and wasteful, it also
  • provides a greater moral problem than the one it seeks to curb,
  • namely corruption."
  • Robert Arner, Director of Intelligence for the Crime
  • Commission, said that," There probably
  • wasn't much of an underlying desire
  • to liberalize the laws just for the sake of liberalizing them,
  • but an overwhelming desire of the Crime Commission
  • is to minimize corruption in our law enforcement agencies."
  • Arner went on to say that laws which
  • imply the necessity of public control of homosexuals
  • actually cause illegal shakedowns
  • and harassments to take place.
  • He cited the badgering of owners and customers
  • of private gay clubs and bars, the soliciting of payoffs,
  • and hassling of gays by police as examples.
  • The report will be sent to members of the Pennsylvania
  • State government.
  • Advocate 137.
  • The subway system around the Boston area
  • is scheduled to be decorated with advertisements featuring
  • lavender rhinoceroses.
  • The colorful rhinos are being placed
  • on poster ads financed by Boston homosexual organizations.
  • The aim of the unusual campaign is
  • to achieve public recognition for gays.
  • One of the creators of the campaign, Bernard Toale,
  • explains that the rhinoceros was chosen, quote,
  • "because of its humorous quality and because it
  • is a much maligned and misunderstood animal."
  • Says Toale, "In actuality, the rhino
  • is gentle and peace-loving.
  • But don't cross him."
  • The group has already mapped out three ads,
  • one showing a lavender rhino and five gray rhinos.
  • The posters are posed to bring out the idea
  • that gays feel different from other people,
  • yet simultaneously the same.
  • Another advertisement shows a rhino coming out of the closet,
  • illustrating what the group says is, "The gays'
  • need for self-acceptance."
  • Zodiac.
  • And now, Evan Pace, "Please Forgive Me."
  • (Music - Evan Pace, "Please Forgive Me"]
  • (Singing) So I took the ring he wore, the ring his father
  • gave to him.
  • It was a precious family heirloom
  • that I received when I was 10.
  • He was proud to be my father, and I was glad to be his son.
  • He thought we had an understanding
  • till I reached the age of 21.
  • Please forgive me, but I must be what I am.
  • Please forgive me and try and understand.
  • Please forgive me, but I must find my own way,
  • and I must try to be my own man.
  • I always hated moods of silence, when he and I did not agree.
  • And he never sat in conversation in fear of learning I was me.
  • Please forgive me, but I must be what I am.
  • Please forgive me and try and understand.
  • Please forgive me, but I must find my own way.
  • I must try to be my own man.
  • So I took the ring he wore, the ring his father gave to him.
  • I placed it gently on his pillow.
  • It's there that family tradition met its end.
  • Please forgive me, but I must be what I am.
  • Please forgive me and try and understand.
  • Please forgive me, but I must find my own way.
  • And I must try to be my own man.
  • Please forgive me, but I must be what I am.
  • Please forgive me and try and understand.
  • Please forgive me, but I must find my own way.
  • And I must try to be my own man.
  • BOB CRYSTAL: That was Evan Pace in "Please Forgive Me."
  • The Gay Alliance of the Genesee Valley
  • and the Gay Revolution of Women are
  • settling into their new residences
  • well, new for the GAGV.
  • The Gay Revolution of Women has been
  • at 713 Monroe Avenue for quite a while now
  • and are beginning to explore their new habitat
  • and introducing themselves to the neighbors,
  • and to the community, and the gay community.
  • Sunday, the GAGV is having a coffeehouse
  • in the new location, in the restaurant downstairs.
  • That's May 19 at 7:30 PM.
  • And there will be music and refreshments, rap groups,
  • and general good times.
  • The Gay Revolution of Women, the Friday night
  • before that this coming Friday night is
  • having an open house in their office at 7:30 PM also.
  • That's Friday night, the 17th.
  • And now we'll have the second of three parts of the roles
  • and images.
  • And it's a consciousness raising session
  • at Tolstoy College of the University of Buffalo.
  • Tonight, Mike rids himself of his alter ego, Anubis, god
  • of death.
  • MIKE: Like I was always that image
  • of being the most masculine man around,
  • being the craziest guy around, doing all the most bizarre,
  • sickening things you could, you know,
  • to make everybody say, "Oh!
  • Look how" You know, be really gross and things like that.
  • And I was under the pressure of putting women on a pedestal
  • so far above me, you know, the unapproachable woman, you know.
  • They say all women are unapproachable, you know,
  • but it was like the unapproachable woman,
  • like that.
  • And it just kept getting more and more frustrating for me.
  • I can remember like my mother finding dirty books of mine
  • that were around the house.
  • "Look at this trash!"
  • Trash, trash, trash, all the time, you know,
  • It was never like, you know, "So what?" or anything like that.
  • It was always, "That's filthy.
  • That's no good," you know, or something like that.
  • And it just (unintelligible).
  • She really implanted in me that really well, you know?
  • So I had a lot of trouble like that
  • trying to have relations with women like that.
  • It was really terrible, you know.
  • I really think that's one thing I like I said,
  • I don't want to put the blame there totally like that,
  • but I don't know if I should or not.
  • But that is a lot of pressure that was on me.
  • I don't know.
  • I feel like the only outlet I had was like to put down
  • on paper, was to write.
  • That's where I think that came from, like that,
  • from inhibitions.
  • Like that was my outlet.
  • I was on (unintelligible) Magazine's the first year,
  • I was on the staff.
  • The second year, I was editor.
  • So this gave me a lot of prestige.
  • I put a lot of work into it, you know.
  • And what happened then is all of sudden, you know,
  • I found myself as float committee chairman, right?
  • And I had to go through all the papers like that and all that.
  • And then I was like student government representative
  • for my curriculum, you know?
  • And so I was doing this like when
  • something had to be done, like they'd come to me.
  • And I'd accept it because I just loved doing it then, you see.
  • I didn't even think about the work and the time that
  • had to be put into it.
  • INTERVIEWER: You were still into wearing black at that time?
  • MIKE: Yeah.
  • You see?
  • (Laughs) Wow!
  • And I really enjoyed doing that, you know?
  • I had a beard at that time and everything like that.
  • And I was always scrounging the skulls and the vests
  • and the cobweb, things like that.
  • I would just run around, and, like,
  • I was running myself ragged.
  • I cracked up one night (unintelligible)
  • too, with my mother.
  • I broke into tears.
  • I don't know if it was a nervous breakdown or what it was.
  • INTERVIEWER: Why?
  • MIKE: Huh?
  • INTERVIEWER: Why don't you explain what happened?
  • How did you get to that point?
  • MIKE: I was under I was doing like all these things at one
  • time.
  • I was editing the magazine.
  • We had our last issue coming out.
  • And I was doing a lot of layout work.
  • And we were building the float at that time.
  • I was chairman of that, you know?
  • And we were filling out the float, and I had school yet.
  • And I couldn't let my being myself,
  • I couldn't let that drop below the C. That's all I wanted
  • was the C, but I couldn't let it go below I
  • didn't want to flunk out.
  • And I was, you know, at school.
  • And then I was playing the image like that.
  • I remember like one night I was out.
  • We were drinking.
  • It was on a Sunday, and I came home.
  • And my mom I don't remember exactly what she said.
  • She was sitting there.
  • It was about midnight.
  • And I was half drunk.
  • And I remember she said something.
  • And I just said, "Well, what the hell do you expect me to do?"
  • And I just broke into tears.
  • (Laughs)
  • And I just like cried for about three hours there, you know?
  • So, "Oh, take it easy."
  • The whole, you know, coddling me in her arms and everything
  • like that.
  • I just cried for like three hours.
  • I fell apart.
  • I guess it just got too much, and so I, you
  • know everything just got to me at that one second.
  • I (Mike makes explosion noise) and just fell apart.
  • Like everything that held together like,
  • all the reasons that made me do all these things, all of,
  • you know, like that it just like (Mike makes explosion noise).
  • INTERVIEWER: Vanished.
  • MIKE: Vanished.
  • You know (Mike makes winding down noise),
  • and I just broke into tears.
  • And it's this really strange feeling, too.
  • Just you know
  • INTERVIEWER: Resolving just to cry?
  • Or just
  • MIKE: Just in general.
  • INTERVIEWER: Had you ever like cried before that?
  • Or it was just really strange to have
  • to see yourself like break down that much and cry?
  • MIKE: No, because I cry I get misty.
  • I don't cry outright like that, just cry like that.
  • But I get misty.
  • That's what I call it, you know.
  • Your eyes water like that.
  • Like, you know, when I'm heavy into a movie like that,
  • I get misty. (Laughs) You know?
  • I really like that, too.
  • I really feel good like that, you know?
  • But that felt like a different kind of crying then, you know?
  • It was not like a I just (Mike makes explosion noise)
  • collapsed.
  • And then I was really depressed for a few days
  • after that until I put everything back together
  • in place like that.
  • And I start doing that again.
  • INTERVIEWER: Back what you were doing before?
  • Like you were doing a lot of work again
  • and (unintelligible)?
  • MIKE: Mm-hmm.
  • And that was when I was in school.
  • Like the women, let's say, in our group,
  • in my high school peer group, like that, you know,
  • they were out there, too, on the streets being driven like, say,
  • out of the home or whatever.
  • INTERVIEWER: So because they were more like men,
  • they were more human.
  • MIKE: Yeah, they were more, you know,
  • could relate to them as people like that, you know?
  • But then again, like, those were friends.
  • You weren't approaching them in desire instances, you know?
  • These were not desire instances.
  • You weren't approaching them in situations,
  • like at the bar, like that, because you were all friends.
  • You just like could go on in any place and say.
  • "Hi, Betty.
  • Hi, Jim."
  • You know?
  • They were people.
  • INTERVIEWER: Sex was never involved?
  • MIKE: No, it wasn't involved with those people,
  • like that, no.
  • When it would come to the sexual aspect like that, ahh!
  • That's really a hard thing to break when, you know,
  • like I said, I really think that was plugged into me, you know?
  • INTERVIEWER: Well, was it ever mentioned between you
  • and, say, you know, these women who were in your group,
  • about having sex with them?
  • MIKE: No, not that I recall.
  • Everybody was like openly you know,
  • everybody felt all the women were the same as the men,
  • as far as I always liked that.
  • But like it seemed to me they just never had sex with us,
  • (laugh) you know, like the friends on the street.
  • We just like never associated it with them.
  • INTERVIEWER: They had sex outside
  • and you had sex outside.
  • MIKE: Yes.
  • The kind of woman I would like now
  • would be like someone who like would do this all with me,
  • you know, who would come to the men, you know,
  • and like, you know, after the men,
  • and like all consistent like that.
  • That's one thing that frustrates me
  • with these guys, my friends who have gotten married, you know?
  • You don't see them anymore.
  • INTERVIEWER: Right.
  • MIKE: And, you know, like I don't see why that happens,
  • you know?
  • They get married, and, like, they fade away.
  • And you never see them again, you know?
  • If they drive by, the beep the horn at you. (Laughs) You know?
  • And yeah, I used to hang around with them all the time.
  • (Unintelligible)
  • INTERVIEWER: Well, it's like they don't have the connection
  • that you want.
  • I mean, there doesn't seem like there
  • is a connection of all the guys' thing with the guys
  • and them bringing their lovers with them to meet the guys
  • and party with the guys.
  • It seems like once they find a lover it would be
  • MIKE: Yeah.
  • INTERVIEWER: the guys.
  • MIKE: Unfortunately, at least I feel
  • like that would make me even more happier.
  • What happened like before with me like that I never
  • thought of, that she would be out Saturday night partying,
  • too, you know?
  • She's waiting for me there, like a puppy dog, you know,
  • that was there when I wanted her, you know?
  • And at the time, it didn't matter, you know?
  • It was just like, word, you know, my girlfriend, you know.
  • Just there, you know?
  • "What's she doing?"
  • "I don't know."
  • "I seen her with this guy."
  • "No, (Laughs) not her."
  • You know?
  • It was OK for me to do that, you see?
  • INTERVIEWER: Mm-hmm.
  • Well, do you feel that way now?
  • MIKE: What?
  • INTERVIEWER: Is this attitude how you feel now?
  • Or, this is the attitude that you had before?
  • MIKE: That was an attitude I had then.
  • You know, like, girlfriend was there when I wanted her,
  • when I needed her, you know, when
  • I wanted to be with her, when I wanted
  • to go out to a social function, something like that, you know?
  • INTERVIEWER: How do you feel about relationships now?
  • Or what kind of relationship would you like to have now?
  • You know, like you said just you were explaining before how
  • the girlfriends would just be there any time,
  • and you just want to have her for the night?
  • And how have you, like, overcome, say,
  • the inhibitions that you said you had before?
  • You know, how do you feel about relationships now?
  • Or, you know, just going out and meeting people?
  • Do you still like really get super drunk at bars?
  • MIKE: No, it happens.
  • But I don't go out like purposely you
  • know I don't need to go out and have ten drinks before I
  • can talk to anybody.
  • You know?
  • I can go out now and like have one or two
  • beers for the whole night and have a good time as much
  • as I could getting slobbered you know,
  • at least not end up like that.
  • And, you know, I feel now that I'm
  • beginning to realize that I've had
  • these inhibitions like that, that they're going away.
  • Like when I first realized in the group, when I brought up
  • the thing about the alter name, the other name
  • that I had for myself
  • INTERVIEWER: What was that?
  • MIKE: Anubis.
  • And I
  • INTERVIEWER: You'll have to explain that.
  • MIKE: Oh, well, see, the other person, the image,
  • had its own name.
  • It was Michael Anubis.
  • INTERVIEWER: I knew you had another image, but I didn't
  • MIKE: Yes, the most masculine man.
  • He was Mike Anubis.
  • INTERVIEWER: Where did you get the name?
  • MIKE: I was going through a book,
  • and Anubis is the Egyptian god of death.
  • He holds the scales of life and death like that.
  • And it sounded good to me.
  • Like we were all giving ourselves names at that time,
  • you know?
  • Denny was Deus.
  • So I was Anubis, you know?
  • And that was the image's name.
  • And when I brought that up to this group like that,
  • and I don't exactly remember how we talked about it whatever
  • like that, but relating to that name,
  • you know when I went home and started
  • thinking about that, I was like, felt this other person
  • like leaving me, you know?
  • And like I was really and all of a sudden, you know,
  • I was able to before, I wasn't able to write my name,
  • relate to that.
  • "That's not me."
  • I was Mike Anubis, you know?
  • And so now, pfft, I put my name all over the place.
  • And I'm really happy with that, you know?
  • I'm really conscious of that name.
  • That name is my name!
  • You know?
  • It's not anything else, and it makes me really happy
  • when I think about that.
  • I was just laying in bed, and I just felt like the energy
  • like just leaving me.
  • This other person just (Mike makes whooshing sound)
  • flowing right out of me and just getting,
  • you know and then just seeing the other me standing there,
  • you know the image me standing there.
  • And
  • CREW: Come on up.
  • You know where it is?
  • MIKE: I was just so relieved after I knew that.
  • That was gone.
  • So I don't have to be that anymore.
  • It was such a relief.
  • (Unintelligible)
  • I thought of a real good story along with that, you know.
  • Someone with the this would be for the story,
  • you know, writing the story.
  • It would be a person like that energy would flow out of them,
  • but the energy would like become real
  • and do away with the actual person.
  • And the image lives.
  • I haven't put it all together.
  • Just, you knowit's just like a note
  • that I've got written down someplace,
  • but I carry it in my head, and if it ever comes out,
  • it comes out.
  • You can just imagine like the energy just flowing out
  • of the person like that.
  • You can envision it like on film or something like that,
  • you know?
  • It's flowing out like that and then
  • INTERVIEWER: You say you felt you were Anubis,
  • or you wanted to feel that your image wasn't there?
  • MIKE: Yeah.
  • Well, wait.
  • I don't understand what you mean.
  • INTERVIEWER: Your image oh, this is just
  • a story you're thinking about or is this the image that you felt
  • Anubis when you're thinking about a story of him,
  • it would be like his energy just flowing out?
  • MIKE: No, it would be like me with Anubis' name.
  • And Anubis would be leaving, and I would be left.
  • And then Anubis would like this is only in the story.
  • INTERVIEWER: Right.
  • MIKE: This is nothing factual or what I feel, you know?
  • The image energy of Anubis would turn on (unintelligible)
  • and do away with (unintelligible).
  • And the image would continue, and the real person
  • wouldn't be there.
  • INTERVIEWER: This is just something
  • that occurred to you recently.
  • MIKE: Yeah, well, it occurred to me like a few
  • a few days after I felt Anubis leaving me.
  • And as soon as I was conscious that that's what really was,
  • you know, I was really playing up to Anubis.
  • I was really alien for me to have my own name.
  • I'm glad that's gone. (Laughs) I'm really relieved.
  • And (Audio cuts out)
  • BOB CRYSTAL: That was the second of three parts
  • of an interview conducted at Tolstoy College about roles
  • and images.
  • Next, we have Kraftwerk, "Kristallo."
  • (Music - Kraftwerk, "Kristallo")
  • That was Kraftwerk, "Kristallo."
  • In the past, the only psychological or psychiatric
  • help that a gay person could get would
  • tend to be from people who were trained
  • to think of being gay as a disease or a problem
  • to be cured.
  • One of the services of the gay community's action groups
  • has been to provide counseling or to arrange
  • for counseling from a different viewpoint, that of dealing
  • with the problems of a gay person, assuming that being gay
  • is alright, and dealing with the problems of living
  • as a gay in society and dealing with gay people
  • and straight people in a healthy manner.
  • To that end, GAGV and the Gay Revolution of Women
  • have been developing a peer counseling group, two of them,
  • one for each.
  • And they have for the past three years
  • had a telephone service where, in the evenings,
  • people could call for peer counseling.
  • GAGV now has a telephone answering service
  • excuse me which is operative from 7:30 to 11:00
  • every night, where people can get peer counseling
  • or arrange for it.
  • The number is 244-8640.
  • The Gay Revolution of Women and the Gay Youth offer
  • peer counseling at the same hours, 7:30
  • to 11:00 PM at 244-9030.
  • They have also arranged for gay relationship counseling
  • with Mrs. Helen Dyke of the Family Services of Rochester.
  • You can call her at 232-1840 Tuesday mornings
  • to make an appointment for other times in the week.
  • That's 232-1840.
  • And just recently on the scene is a counseling service
  • for gay relationships and dealing
  • with the straight world offered by the Catholic Community
  • Services.
  • And there are two counselors who do that work.
  • They are Miss Catherine Wover and Walt Szymanski.
  • Their office is on the fifth floor at 50 Chestnut Street,
  • or call 546-7220.
  • That's 546-7220.
  • This is quite an advance over the past and something
  • of which the gay community groups can be very, very proud.
  • Next, we have Vangelis, with "He-O."
  • (Music- Vangelis, "He-O")
  • (Singing) He-o he came walking down my street.
  • He-o and he stopped in front of my door.
  • He-o and he knocked on the door a long while.
  • He-o then he turned and he walked away.
  • He-o then he turned and he walked away.
  • He-o he never came back again.
  • He-o I wasn't at home that day.
  • He-o and I never found out that he came.
  • He-o he came walking down my street.
  • He-o and he stopped in front of my door.
  • He-o and he knocked on the door a long while.
  • He-o then he turned and he walked away.
  • He-o then he turned and he walked away.
  • He-o he never came back again.
  • He-o I wasn't at home that day.
  • He-o and I never found out that he came.
  • BOB CRYSTAL: If you've ever wondered
  • what happened to your knight in shining armor,
  • that record might answer the question.
  • That was Vangelis with "He-O."
  • There are two groups which are holding meetings this week.
  • The Gay Youth, which is holding an organizational meeting
  • and a rap session this is a new group in Rochester.
  • It's open to gay people 18 years and younger.
  • They will be meeting in the Gay Alliance office
  • on the second floor of 713 Monroe Avenue.
  • That's the Genesee Co-Op.
  • And they meet Sunday, May 19, at 2:00 PM.
  • The Gay Task Force is meeting Thursday the 16th.
  • That's today at 7:30 PM at 2 Fuller Place.
  • The Gay Task Force is an action-oriented group.
  • And some of the projects that they have in the making
  • are a coordinated effort to lobby with the Albany people
  • to repeal the sodomy statutes and also
  • to conduct a series of telephone interviews
  • with the voters of New York state
  • to assess exactly how much effect and what kind of effect
  • the gay activists in the state have had on the voting public.
  • That's Thursday the 16th of May at 7:30 PM at 2 Fuller Place.
  • This has been quite an experience for me.
  • Bruce getting sick sort of threw me in the water
  • to see if I could swim.
  • And it's sort of like being on the stage in high school
  • with all sorts of jitters and lavender butterflies
  • floating around in your stomach, making things
  • all sort of wavery.
  • You
  • can tell it's spring because I have a little friend in here
  • with me.
  • And he's been dive bombing me.
  • So the warm weather brings out something.
  • I think it's a bluebottle, but I'm not quite sure.
  • I don't know what kind of swear words
  • to use at it because I'm a liberated person.
  • And so as soon as my mic goes dead,
  • I'll try to think of something and yell it.
  • Next, we have Ravi Shankar's "Love Theme Transformation."
  • (Music - Ravi Shankar, "Love Theme Transformation")
  • (Birds singing)
  • This has been Green Thursday for May 16.
  • A week from this past hour, tune in for Lesbian Nation.